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Controversy In Kawajiri Vs. Calvan Fight?! Kawajiri Influencing The Referee?

I don’t like to post about stuff like this since you never know but since it is discussed in Japan the rest of the MMA world should also be aware of it.

Japanese fans have found Tatsuya Kawajiri talking with the referee in his fight against J.Z. Calvan.

At around 1:23 of the video, while they are entangled in the ropes and the referee puts his hand on them (probably for a restart, since that is a normal position to do it) Kawajiri says: “Todomenai de” in Japanese like three times which means “Don’t stop”.

The referee then doesn’t stop and move them to the middle until Kawajiri has mount position.

This might have become a better call since it seems like Kawajiri was on his way to a mount position and it would’ve been difficult to restart them at exactly such a position but people think Kawajiri’s words influenced the referees refereeing.

Also, Kawajiri vs. Masato had at the time of the fight most likely already been decided in case of victory for Kawajiri, and the DREAM people/management like Kawajiri.

Source: Road to DREAM

  1. Rictor
    July 6, 2009 at 8:44 am

    Very interesting indeed but I’m almost sure that the western blog community will treat this as another proof how corrupt is DREAM the second they will see this. They probably even don’t know that the same referees judge DREAM and Sengoku fights.

  2. July 6, 2009 at 8:46 am

    It’s gonna be that, but maybe even more, an argument on why the cage is better (which I’m 50/50 on).

  3. wentz
    July 6, 2009 at 8:57 am

    Not a story. If I was a fighter i’d try to influence the ref.

    The fact this has been made a story is suspicious. Sounds like a plant. You know how easy it is to stir the forums up? But who?

  4. wentz
    July 6, 2009 at 8:58 am

    meow

  5. July 6, 2009 at 9:05 am

    This is mostly geared toward the referee and not Kawajiri. Even though some people in Japan think it was dirty by Kawajiri.

    Isn’t it a story if a ref base a decision on something that a fighter said?

  6. Rictor
    July 6, 2009 at 9:12 am

    Yeah. I think you’re most likely right about this.
    P.S. I asked about K-1Fans because there’s a guy who often posts news from your site but he is there for a long time so it’s not you.

  7. July 6, 2009 at 9:15 am

    how popular is JZ in Japan? maybe some people were upset that JZ lost to Kawajiri, because i dont think this video is that big of a deal. are fighters not allowed to talk at all during fights? heat of the moment the Ref thought he prolly did the right thing, its easy to go back and look at the video and point shit out.

  8. July 6, 2009 at 9:22 am

    Those are hardcore mma fans so they know who JZ is either way.

    I doubt fighters aren’t allowed to talk.

    But of course there’s gonna be talk when they are clearly in a position where Japanese refs usually restart fighters (their heads were out of the ropes), the ref puts his hands on them (why would he put his hands on them if he wasn’t going to drag them or say “stop dont move”?), Kawajiri says “don’t stop” a few times, and the ref then restarts them in the middle when Kawajiri has mount.

    The ref might have thought it was bad to restart at that time as you say, but something discussed in Japan can be discussed in the west as well.

  9. ShootJunkie
    July 6, 2009 at 9:55 am

    I don’t see anything wrong with it to be honest. If people start complaing about this they need to find something better to do with their time. Not only that, but should I see someone with their panties in a twist about how corrupted it was for a fighter to influence a ref and all that “DREAM is corrupt” nonsense I’ll glady post up the ending to Penn vs. Sherk where BJ basically waved off his own fight and influenced the refs and officials to put a stop to the bout.

  10. kawa's boy toy
    July 6, 2009 at 10:34 am

    Kawajiri would have won anyway. He was whoopin’ on JZ throughout the whole fight.

  11. whomever
    July 6, 2009 at 2:10 pm

    This is Royce/Yoshida all over again. So there will be a Kawajiri/Calvan rematch with a Brazilian referee and JZ will have a conversation with him through the entirety of the fight.

    Honestly, this doesn’t have a major impact on the outcome of the fight…so…

  12. kawa's boy toy
    July 6, 2009 at 6:49 pm

    JZ isn’t like Royce. JZ is a respectable, mature fighter. He probably thinks what’s done is done cuz that’s the aura that I get when I see most of his interviews.

  13. tinobar
    July 6, 2009 at 7:05 pm

    haha windkick i remember during the dream chat that i said
    the ref is about to stand them up with kawajiri in mount

    hehehe

  14. July 6, 2009 at 9:21 pm

    ofcourse, i dont think we should dismiss it. i just can see why both ways if the Ref was in fact trying to help Kawajiri or not. either way, Kawajiri was already in good position to win the fight so who knows if this one incident really did in fact change any kind of out come of the fight.

  15. July 6, 2009 at 9:22 pm

    im sure if JZ gets a few more wins in he will rematch Kawa one day. it was a great fight and id love to see them fight again

  16. Drew
    July 7, 2009 at 3:32 am

    Its not like JZ did anything at all during the entire fight.

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